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Post by m0 on Sept 3, 2005 23:28:13 GMT -5
I don't mean to bring up illegal substances , but I have heard a lot about ecstasy and how in small doses it causes euphoria/endorphin release. Not the amount that you would do to get high, but a very small metered dose used in a therapeutic fashion. I know the high I get from picking, and if I could replace that with something non-destructive it would be an improvement. Just wondering if anyone has heard about using this as a treatment option.
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Post by anonymousartist on Sept 4, 2005 0:43:21 GMT -5
Ok, I have no idea if this is true, but some people who have used drugs (I know meth for sure) have reported more problems with picking, so I would not try this method. I have never heard of a small/safe/therapeutic dose of ecstacy. It's not the illegality of it that gets me. It's the potential of unsafe usage of the drug. Self-medicating can be very dangerous, especially if you mix with other drugs you might be on for one reason or another. I also think that if we are getting "high" off picking (this isn't a theory that I reject in any way) that would indicate a chemical imbalance where we cause a rush, come down, and want another rush, going from one extreme to another. So I don't think inducing the rush by a drug will stop us from coming down just as hard and then needing the fix again. I would be afraid it would only make the problem worse. Ecstacy pills have a high risk of containing other drugs as well, including speed, which I would think you wouldn't want mixed in with an anti-picking therapy because of the negative effects people (including myself) have reported from caffeine. I got some info at www.ecstacy.org . They seem to be a decent source. Your best bet to get an endorphin high is plain, simple exercise. You may have to walk/run/etc for a while to really feel the high, but once you get it you will feel like you can keep going forever (make sure you're well-hydrated and have eaten something with carbs within three hours of doing so, and stop ifyou feel faint, dizzy, start to lose vision -- if it's hot out there is a risk of heat exaustion). This is non-destructive, and I have found it to be therapeutic for just about every area of my life, including depression, anxiety, even picking. You might also look into the vitamin precursor, inositol. It is naturally found in a lot of foods that you can increase in your diet and some people on the boards have said it's helped them stop picking. I found it to help my anxiety. Sorry if I came off as a little anti-. I'm not passing any judgements or anything, just don't want to see anyone do anything unsafe. --Becca
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Post by LiViNgDeAdGiRl on Sept 9, 2005 3:03:55 GMT -5
"Ok, I have no idea if this is true, but some people who have used drugs (I know meth for sure) have reported more problems with picking," Why do you suppose that is? I know when I had done meth all the time, there would be times where when and if i was alone, the picking WOULD get outta control...I mean worse than just my normal picking. And my skin would always break out worse and I just ended up looking and feeling like shit...especially after long out of control picking sessions. No other drug ive done has ever had that sort of effect on me to where the picking would become that much worse than it already was before. I was addicted to Meth for a VERY long time and abused the drug daily for years...and my picking became relatively worse over that time period of my using. Thankfully im done with all that crazy shit and my picking habits and urges have diminished since then and they arnt as bad as they were before, but even after kicking the meth...I still cant seem to kick the habit of picking...Just thought id share my little story about that...
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Post by taarna on Dec 5, 2005 20:36:12 GMT -5
There's a reason they call it "tweek." To tweek out on something is esentially becoming engulfed in that particular activity, usually to the point they get on "tweeker time", that is they lose all sense of time and go into a tracelike state almost. I'm a former abuser of meth, obsessive compulsive, and Bipolar. I write lists and when I would tweek I would get raging pissed if someone interupted my intense concentration. Same with the picking. I noticed when I was on meth and for a short while after my "pick pocks" would have a harder time healing. This is because when meth or any other poison leaves your body it is excreted not only through urine and feces, but through our sweat. It comes through the pores and causes breakouts to get worse and not heal. That is why eating good foods like berries and omega fatty acids help our skin.
As for E, of course by reading the other posts you've gathered it's a bad idea. There are so many different avenues you could go down to beat this, but if drugs are on the agenda it is best left up to the professionals. Not a physician either. This is a psycological issue so for the best results you must go to a doctor of the mind. Would you go to a proctologist for a pap smear? Or a dentist for a broken arm? I know exercise was mentioned above and let me just say when I started my yoga regime I almost immidiately stopped picking my thumbs.
Just another side note about E, I had a friend who in the name of self medication took the drug every weekend for almost a year. He has almost no sense of smell or taste left and sex is a lot less enjoyable. It really messes with your senses. I know from doing these drugs the good does not out weigh the bad. The only thing I get high on now a days is yoga.
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Post by abby on Jan 14, 2006 23:48:00 GMT -5
hey! have never written on a message board before, as have never known what to say, but have been diagnosed with csp for years now, and have also done my fair share of extacy so prehaps can offer some insight (although no longer do drugs)....
in my experiance, in a way, extacy does help, the feel good high, leaving your worries behind, new found confidence etc have all meant that i didnt pick, not only that but i didnt even think about picking, how i looked, anything concerned with csp at all, it was a glimpse of what i imajine being a "normal" person would be like...
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the first few times you use extacy, you have no comedown/hangover, everythings dandy, but as you take it more often (times rather than amounts seems to be the key in developing extacy hangovers) you start to have a hangover. you also build a tollerence so need more and more (however small the amount you take, so long as its regular). the more you do in a night (once you start getting hangovers!) the worse you feel the next day. The problem with an extacy hangover tho, is you feel physically awful for a day or two, but mentally (and this can easily last a week) often feel paranoid, isolated, unwanted, ugly, afraid, basically, the kind of feelings that encourage picking - NOT A GOOD IDEA!!!!!!!!! the benefit of one night off from picking may seem like bliss, but then a week of hell totally undoes any healing and you end up worse off then before. for skin pickers it would be a totally destructive high. unless you are a pharmasist with some crazy equipment, the amount of extacy in a pill is already really small, even to just do a quater would get you high and start the cycle above!
(sorry for my awful spelling)
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Post by 0101 on Jun 8, 2006 22:39:30 GMT -5
I have done e alot, and from my experiences it made my skin worse at first, but now it doesnt seem to effect my skin what so ever!
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Post by urheartshapedbox on May 14, 2007 8:51:19 GMT -5
ecstasy doesn't help. trust me. i did it last night and after i got home and was still tripping, i spent about two hours looking at my skin and trying to get every last pore empty, and now my skin looks disgusting. something in it might help, but it makes you want to look at details and touch your face so much more. its still fun though
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Post by hints from heloise on Jul 7, 2008 13:27:17 GMT -5
from my pov NO DRUG can help because they all have temporary effects and only work on superficial level. for instance, occasionally smoking grass certainly can give me beautiful feelings of 'oneness' and lack of self consciousness, merging with the universe, all those sensations. but if i don't bring that wisdom back to me on a real mundane day to day level, i haven't learned or changed a thing! i've just gone on a carnival ride and now i'm back home in my dirty old apartment which sure is a comedown....real lessons are made through discipline and a giving up of control, which meditation for me personally has really helped the most. when you meditate, you are teaching yourself to open up every sense, and not fill the void with that endless stream of chatter of what happened, what will happen, how you felt, how you will feel,etc....you are living and learning to live more WITHOUT words, in the moment, in NONACTION. you are literally just cleansing your mind with deep breaths, and allowing, allowing. not engaging at all. there is too much emphasis on action in this world, and we mess so much up that is naturally beautiful and perfect in its imperfections, from nature to our own beloved faces.
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Post by abby normal on Feb 1, 2009 0:47:59 GMT -5
No way.
First of all, it's a really dangerous drug.
Not only to your life but to your brain chemistry, and for anyone experiencing what might be a chemical imballance, it's the worst idea.
It causes a rapid production of serotonin, while your on it. And after the drug is out of your system, the serotonin production comes to a halt, almost completely for sometimes a matter of days. Some people who have taken it habitually experience a permanent lack of serotonin that is severe enough to require medication.
You're better off trying a serotonin reuptake, (i.e. prozac, zoloft) for legit and longer lasting results.
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Post by Guest on Jun 15, 2009 15:40:45 GMT -5
First off, MDMA is one of the safest drugs out there if not taken with reckless abandonment.
Secondly, no it will not help with skin picking. You don't sleep, the circles under your eyes will shock you the next morning. Your skin is stretched tight against your face. It's like looking at a skeleton version of yourself. This only lasts through the next day, but every blemish and pore sicks out against the backdrop of un-rested skin, and coupled with the often dreary come downs of the next morning, it just won't stop skin picking. If anything, it will make it worse.
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